The best method for learning to play back up banjo: k.i.s.s.

Keep It Simple Stupid

My website visitor and newsletter subscriber Harold Saxton recently had this to say in an email:

“Paul, I really like what you have to say about learning banjo, especially your take on the D chord.I struggle with back up banjo and wonder if you have any simple ways to learn this?”

This simple question provided me a chance to touch on a subject that I often talk with beginners about, and I realized that my blog readers who pick banjo might benefit from being in on the conversation. Here are a few thoughts on the topic.

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Playing back up banjo is easy…yet tough

So let’s see: Harold asked about learning back up banjo and if there are any simple ways to get this tackled. I have to say that it’s tough to do much instruction through email or a blog post of course, but I’ll try to offer something worth reading here. Back up on the banjo in its basic form is not too tough as far as what you do with your fingers on the banjo. It all comes down to being able to make chords that cover the main 4 strings on the banjo (not counting the high 5th string.) It’s the working with other musicians, understanding keys, keeping good rhythm, making back-up more fancy…all of that is where the challenge comes in.

My best advice is to get as good and solid at the basics as you can before you do anything else. You’ll hear banjo players doing all of this wonderful rolling and picking and fancy-schmancy stuff as they play backup, but when you are learning, you need to force yourself to avoid the urge to play all that fancy stuff, and just get the basics down. The very first basic is learning your chords! I mentioned “chords that cover the 4 strings” in my comments above, and by this I mean the D-form (or D shape) chords, the Bar-form (or bar shape) chords and the F-form chords (or F shape chords.) Make sure you can play all of the chords for the key of G using all three chord shapes, then learn all of the chords for the key of A using all three chord shapes, then the other keys, etc. I think you’ll find that the most popular bluegrass keys are A, B, C, D, and G. That’s not a hard and fast rule, but that’s what I’ve noticed. (You established pickers, no need to write and correct my choice of keys there. They vary region by region and voice by voice.) Of course most of us use a capo when it comes to playing in keys other than G, but do yourself a favor and be able to “speak chords” without a capo on the neck. Practice playing rhythm in keys other than G without the capo. This will be quite a learning experience for you and will serve you well.  

Once you have the chords in your head (that seems like a lot of work…and it is…so even though I named several keys up above, for sure spend a ton of time getting the key of G memorized if nothing else) then you’ll want to play what’s known as a “chop” on beats 2 and 4 of the rhythm. So if a song tempo is going along like this: 1 – 2 – 3 – 4, you’ll play a chop over beats 2 and 4. If I wrote it out literally, this is what you’d be doing: 1 – CHOP – 3 – CHOP – , where chop is your right hand playing the chop technique. Of course you have to be playing the correct chords as the song goes along with your left hand. And in case it isn’t obvious, you don’t play anything on beats 1 and 3. You want beats 2 and 4, which are the back beats.

The chop…that’s the easy part I mentioned above. It’s relatively painless to get the actual techniques down. The hard part is keeping rhythm and chopping correctly when playing up to any kind of quick pace. It’s definitely not natural and really is a learned skill, one that you acquire after doing it incorrectly for quite awhile!  The good, basic chop to the back beat of the rhythm is a learned skill, and it sounds the best. It doesn’t step on anyone’s toes and doesn’t drown out  the other pickers like what can happen if you roll too heavy during your back up work. This is the very first step to becoming a great banjo player. The other more impressive stuff will come in time, but remember this:

Your job as a rhythm (back up) player is to make the other pickers and singers sound good.

Sometimes that involves rolling and being fancy at the same time others are picking and singing, but most times it involves you holding a steady, metronome-like “chop” behind them while they pick or sing. So…get good at this skill first.

Let’s get our hands dirty

Alright, for your edification and amusement, I went ahead and recorded a few simple sound files to illustrate what I’m talking about here. If you are a rank beginner, grab your banjo and try to play along with these short clips. (If you can already take part in a jam session, this exercise isn’t for you; well, maybe the 200 b.p.m. example might be something to try.) I am playing a G-C-G-D-G progression, using the F-form shaped chords at the third fret (G), the 8th fret (C) and the 10th fret (D). You have four choices in speeds; see if you don’t agree that it’s pretty dang hard to hang on at the higher speeds! Just click the blue links to listen and play along:

Banjo chop to metronome: 70 b.p.m.
Banjo chop to metronome: 100 b.p.m.
Banjo chop to metronome: 130 b.p.m.
Banjo chop to metronome: 200 b.p.m.

Them dang obnoxious 5 string banjo players!

This is by no means a definitive study on banjo back up, but it is a good primer for you and hopefully gives you some thoughts to run with. Take my simple ideas and introductions here, and use them as the basis for launching yourelf into clean, tasteful, respectful back up on the banjo. Get fancy when it’s called for, but be able to avoid stepping on toes as you play by sticking with the basic chop when it’s called for.

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As always, those are my lousy opinions. As always, I’m Banjo Paul. As always, I’d love to hear from you! Please consider leaving some comments in the section at the bottom of this page, and as I always say: pick ‘em if ya got ‘em!

Banjo Paul
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10 Responses to The best method for learning to play back up banjo: k.i.s.s.

  1. avatar saphine says:

    Def both sides but it’s more to do with the chair I sit on, wobbles a bit!
    1st jam was GREAT despite it being a SCOTTISH jam session. The jigs and reels were incredibly fast and for the most part I just listened for the changes of chords and keys. They very kindly did a few slow tunes and I managed to join in. Thankfully they were miked up and I wasn’t so my fluffs couldn’t be heard. I was asked to play a few tunes so I played and sang Worried Man Blues which they picked up within seconds. I was applauded by the chaps in the bar (did I say it was in a pub?!) and…and.. they have invited me back next week! I figured chords are chords, live playing is a great way to learn and someone in the bar wants to start a Bluegrass band so who knows what the future might hold.
    Jumping the gun you might think (and who could blame you?) but I have played several times in front of loads of people (aprox 200 at one time on holiday this October), at my party and with my brother’s rockabilly band. The bug has really munched at my heels. Now I just have to learn how to play the thing!
    Elizabeth

  2. avatar saphine says:

    DUH! I meant to say the F shape at the 3rd fret…see I really are a banjo picker…gonna wipe up the drool now

  3. avatar saphine says:

    Hi Paul
    Geoff Howhald has done a fairly easy to follow lesson on learning the 3 basic chord shapes. I’m on the G shape up and down the neck and will progress up to the dreaded D shape soon, although I do dip in just to torture my little fingers. The lesson makes a lot of sense but when I get proficient I’ll be needing tabs, tracks and rolls to add to the chording. Sounds to me like what you will be doing so I’ll definately be interested.

    Am off to my 1st jam session in a few mins in the hope that I will recognise the chords being played and vamp along a little without ‘getting in the way’..
    As ever, delighted to hear from you
    Elizabeth

    • avatar admin says:

      Hi Elizabeth, sounds like you’ve got a pretty good resource to get you started there. I know that Geoff puts out some pretty good stuff. I’m beginning production on my own back up instructional material soon and will keep you posted.

      Also, I’d love to hear about your experiences at your first jam!

  4. avatar TimS says:

    You are so right about it being not natural to chop along on the back beat. You spend your whole life “air drumming” on the beat, and it becomes difficult to change that behavior to play basic backup banjo.

    What I’ve found to be helpful, is to not fight the urge to use the beat. I do this by tapping along to the beat with my left hand. What!?! How the heck can you tap along with your left hand, and still fret the banjo at the same time? Thanks for asking. I simply use the beat as my que to fret the strings with the F-form chord posiiton in preparation for the right hand chop. If I struggle with the beat of a song, I try it without the banjo, by tapping the table top with my left hand on the beat. I can then ususally translate that back to the banjo.

    Playing backup sounds like it should be much easier than taking a lead break in a song, but I’m finding both tasks equally challenging.

    Tim

    • avatar admin says:

      Great comments and good advice Tim. I’ve always found it quite interesting that every student I’ve ever seen can tap the “front” beat with 100% accuracy, never missing it even at fast speeds. But trying to tap out the back beat to even a medium tempo completely throws many of them. It’s a learned skill for sure.

  5. avatar saphine says:

    Again Paul some pretty solid advice. I’m doing just that with the chords (my winter project if you like) and am wondering if you could suggest (cain’t spell reko…recco..reckomend this late in the evening!!) some backup learning aids (DVD, music, cd’s) that might be of use to play along with…oh so slowly?
    Elizabeth

    • avatar admin says:

      Hi Elizabeth,

      Thanks for the response to my blog post. I always appreciate your comments. As far as recommended resources for learning back up banjo, I know there are a ton of them out there, but I got all my training “in the field”, so to speak, so haven’t purchased any of them and don’t know for sure what to recommend. (Perhaps other blog readers will post their recommendations.)

      Having said that, I am working on a course for beginner’s back up banjo complete with text, tablature and sound files, that will sell for a reasonable amount…probably around $20. I’ll contact you via email to check your interest, but regardless of whether you pick mine up, will you contact me if you find some resources you like so that I can pass on the recommendation? Thanks!

      Banjo Paul

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